Comments for Always searching for inspiration... http://hpiette.wordpress.com Just another WordPress.com weblog by Hilary Piette Sat, 15 Dec 2007 14:36:00 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Comment on Can students handle preparation for testing? by Idetrorce http://hpiette.wordpress.com/2007/01/30/can-students-handle-preparation-for-testing/#comment-494 Idetrorce Sat, 15 Dec 2007 14:36:00 +0000 http://hpiette.wordpress.com/2007/01/30/can-students-handle-preparation-for-testing/#comment-494 very interesting, but I don't agree with you Idetrorce very interesting, but I don’t agree with you
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]]> Comment on Conclusions by waldrup49 http://hpiette.wordpress.com/2007/04/15/conclusions/#comment-25 waldrup49 Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:56:36 +0000 http://hpiette.wordpress.com/2007/04/15/conclusions/#comment-25 Hillary, Was it yesterday that we started this class? It sure seems like it. First I would like to thank you and everyone else in our class. I have learned as much from everyones blogs and comments in class as I have by the great things we get read and hear in our class. You like others have used your blog to write about NCLB and high stakes testing. I am not sure how I feel about the whole subject to tell you the truth. I feel as though teachers should be held accountable for the education their students are recieving and whether the student is reaching the full potential they have as far as a teacher can effect it. What that accountability leads to and how we determine that is where it gets a little fuzzy for me. I agree with many of your points but still need to come to a position myself on my own reading and research. Your article like other has a least given me a perspective to start with. The ability to read is so important to all parts of the educational process and I am not sure the way we assess the ability to do that systematicly is correct. Thank you again for writing so intelligently on a great topic. Wade Hillary,

Was it yesterday that we started this class? It sure seems like it. First I would like to thank you and everyone else in our class. I have learned as much from everyones blogs and comments in class as I have by the great things we get read and hear in our class.

You like others have used your blog to write about NCLB and high stakes testing. I am not sure how I feel about the whole subject to tell you the truth. I feel as though teachers should be held accountable for the education their students are recieving and whether the student is reaching the full potential they have as far as a teacher can effect it. What that accountability leads to and how we determine that is where it gets a little fuzzy for me.

I agree with many of your points but still need to come to a position myself on my own reading and research. Your article like other has a least given me a perspective to start with. The ability to read is so important to all parts of the educational process and I am not sure the way we assess the ability to do that systematicly is correct.

Thank you again for writing so intelligently on a great topic.

Wade

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]]> Comment on Can socioeconomics be a factor on student performance? by lovead http://hpiette.wordpress.com/2007/02/14/can-socioeconomics-be-a-factor-on-student-performance/#comment-23 lovead Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:27:34 +0000 http://hpiette.wordpress.com/2007/02/14/can-socioeconomics-be-a-factor-on-student-performance/#comment-23 Hilary, Great blog... I know that personally, i have a number of qualms concerning No Child Left Behind. I reject the idea that this program actually provides a fair education, and i reject the idea that the standardized tests (at least the ones currently in use) accurately determine a students "learning" from over the course of a year. I have always been disgusted at the double standard applied to teachers. They expect perfection in there moral lives (which includes any past moral lives), they expect the teachers to be able to survive on increasing less funding, all the while expecting the education system to improve. Well, teachers are not miracle workers, and i would argue that our educational system works better than our healthcare system. Afterall, who taught that entire healthcare system???? Pay the teachers more and provide more funding. That is how the governemtn will raise the educational system. -Adam Hilary,
Great blog… I know that personally, i have a number of qualms concerning No Child Left Behind. I reject the idea that this program actually provides a fair education, and i reject the idea that the standardized tests (at least the ones currently in use) accurately determine a students “learning” from over the course of a year.

I have always been disgusted at the double standard applied to teachers. They expect perfection in there moral lives (which includes any past moral lives), they expect the teachers to be able to survive on increasing less funding, all the while expecting the education system to improve. Well, teachers are not miracle workers, and i would argue that our educational system works better than our healthcare system. Afterall, who taught that entire healthcare system????

Pay the teachers more and provide more funding. That is how the governemtn will raise the educational system.

-Adam

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]]> Comment on Can socioeconomics be a factor on student performance? by kaasland http://hpiette.wordpress.com/2007/02/14/can-socioeconomics-be-a-factor-on-student-performance/#comment-4 kaasland Fri, 23 Feb 2007 04:18:27 +0000 http://hpiette.wordpress.com/2007/02/14/can-socioeconomics-be-a-factor-on-student-performance/#comment-4 I am really glad you pointed this out. I know we focus so much on how not all children have the same learning levels or abilities when referring to NCLB, but I don't know if I have heard discussion about the socioeconomic aspect. And it totally makes sense! We all learn in Intro to Education and Diversity of Ed about this, but there wasn't that cross over link for me until I read your post. Have you read Ruby Paine's "Culture of Poverty" or any other writings? She deals with the really interesting issue of how a student's socioeconomic status can have an impact on their behavior/success in the classroom. I guess to put it in a better way, she provides information on the culture of poverty (obviously) compared to that of middle- or upper-class in more psychological ways to help you understand your students. And I think Ruby could possibly agree with you on the basis that the information on standardized tests would not be relevant to children living in poverty because 1) they are too focused on home conditions and survival and 2) social studies, science, or literature probably would not be relevant in type of jobs they will hold to help support their family. In many cases, the children are trapped in generational poverty and have little hope of ever escaping. I am really glad you pointed this out. I know we focus so much on how not all children have the same learning levels or abilities when referring to NCLB, but I don’t know if I have heard discussion about the socioeconomic aspect. And it totally makes sense! We all learn in Intro to Education and Diversity of Ed about this, but there wasn’t that cross over link for me until I read your post. Have you read Ruby Paine’s “Culture of Poverty” or any other writings? She deals with the really interesting issue of how a student’s socioeconomic status can have an impact on their behavior/success in the classroom. I guess to put it in a better way, she provides information on the culture of poverty (obviously) compared to that of middle- or upper-class in more psychological ways to help you understand your students.

And I think Ruby could possibly agree with you on the basis that the information on standardized tests would not be relevant to children living in poverty because 1) they are too focused on home conditions and survival and 2) social studies, science, or literature probably would not be relevant in type of jobs they will hold to help support their family. In many cases, the children are trapped in generational poverty and have little hope of ever escaping.

]]> Comment on Can students handle preparation for testing? by kristinacoffey http://hpiette.wordpress.com/2007/01/30/can-students-handle-preparation-for-testing/#comment-3 kristinacoffey Thu, 01 Feb 2007 15:29:01 +0000 http://hpiette.wordpress.com/2007/01/30/can-students-handle-preparation-for-testing/#comment-3 I had read this article a few days ago as being an option for one of my posts. After reading it i thought it was interesting because it is required to pass this test in order to graduate. Yet while looking at this students life, she seems like she wants to pass it yet she seems to struggle getting her homework done on time because of her extracurricular activities. So even thought the teachers are trying to get the students prepared for the test are the students trying as well? The girl in the article said that she usually gets to school a little early so that she can do her homework. If she were really concerned with passing the test should she focus more on her homework rather than her dancing? I think that teachers are worried about the students passing the test because it affects their jobs in the end. So they try and teach and prepare the students as much as they can but if the students are not doing their part it makes it a little hard for them. I liked how the one teacher had the students reading the Crucible for class and the different activities she was having them do to help improve their reading comprehension and helping them to be able to dig a little deeper into the story and figure out what exactly it is about. I had read this article a few days ago as being an option for one of my posts. After reading it i thought it was interesting because it is required to pass this test in order to graduate. Yet while looking at this students life, she seems like she wants to pass it yet she seems to struggle getting her homework done on time because of her extracurricular activities. So even thought the teachers are trying to get the students prepared for the test are the students trying as well? The girl in the article said that she usually gets to school a little early so that she can do her homework. If she were really concerned with passing the test should she focus more on her homework rather than her dancing?

I think that teachers are worried about the students passing the test because it affects their jobs in the end. So they try and teach and prepare the students as much as they can but if the students are not doing their part it makes it a little hard for them. I liked how the one teacher had the students reading the Crucible for class and the different activities she was having them do to help improve their reading comprehension and helping them to be able to dig a little deeper into the story and figure out what exactly it is about.

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